tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post4488227187986349625..comments2023-10-29T21:14:24.325+08:00Comments on SHE in China: Hot western men. And 'fat' western ladies.Jonna Wibeliushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08954672453008704738noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-50955911780861877622010-10-23T13:00:30.383+08:002010-10-23T13:00:30.383+08:00lol, this is FUNNY.
I will say it again.
1. In S...lol, this is FUNNY.<br /><br />I will say it again.<br /><br />1. In ShangHi, it is REALLY BAD. ShangHi people are totally brain washed by western media that they believe they are inferior than Whites. ShangHi was a semi-coloney for almsot 80 years. Both ShangHi men and women fancy White people. BUT ShangHi men lack the balls to do it, since western media are so Harsh on them. While SHanHi girls are motiviated to date White guys. They want Blonde hair blue eyes WHite guys. BUT Get real, little or NO Blonde men want Chinese women. Most Blonde guys want Hispanic girls, Arab girls and White girls, even black girls. Asian girlsa are at their bottom list. This is why ShangHi girls are willing to date Fat, bold hair, old, or even ugly White guys, cause they believe that mixed baby are better looking.<br /><br />2. Most ShangiHi girls are Southern Chinese girls, whom are usually much uglier than South Western(Sichuan, ChongChing) and North Eastern(LiaoNin, HeiLongJiang, JiLin) poeple. This is why they are so desperate to date White guys, cause they think this way their offspring will be better looking. lol. But the SAD reality is that when you mix ugly girls with ugly guys, you get ugly babies, and it is a fact. Here in USA I have seen plenty of butt ugly EuroAsians. I have also know many GOOD looking EuroAsians but they are all products of WHite women Asian men. For example Brandon Lee, the son of Bruce Lee is a very good looking guy.<br /><br />3. This only happens in ShangHi, in other parts of China, like my hometown Sichuan, it wikll never happen. Most Sichuan girls like Chinese guys the BEST. In North East China, Chinese girls are VERY VERY Beautiful, tall, and stylish. THey too mostly perfer Chinese men OVER White men. Unless he is a GOOD looking White guys. <br /><br />Jonna, you seriously need to live in other parts of China like North East(Dialian is a GREAT city), then post. Chinese from different part of the Middle Kindom are SO SO different. Just like Europeans. Europeans from Italy and Sweden are so so different. You know this. So please DO NOT generealize us. You dont know ENOUGH about us. Also, you are a cute WHite girl, sorry that you are not getting the attention you need, lol. Come to North Eastern China, here men are TALL, and Manly, well suited for you. <br /><br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />Jiang, best regards.<br />:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-90533419393121425022009-04-08T12:04:00.000+08:002009-04-08T12:04:00.000+08:00Jonna,FIRST it is easy to understand why this post...Jonna,<BR/><BR/>FIRST it is easy to understand why this post turned in the direction of western men with chinese girls becuause there are so many western people (men and women) who assume that every western man (who does not meet the western woman defintion of attractive) is in asian looking for sex and/or love from the stupid materialistic asian girls (see numerous posts here that confirm this assumption).<BR/><BR/>When I first was asked to come to China by my company knowledge of China was like a blank page and my knowledge of Asia consisted of a 1 week business trip to Japan. And I knew nothing of the "fact" that I would be hotter in China than in USA (as it turns out I am not any hotter except that culture here more values an older man for his stablity and wisdom so it is not as unusal to see a May-December relationship).<BR/><BR/>The people who seem to like this topic are obsessed with appearance as they make statements like kanmuri "the men are alwats admired here, even if they look like they could NEVER even get laid back home". Enough said. <BR/><BR/>SECOND to the original reason of your blog post:<BR/> <BR/>1. Chinese women are usually smaller frame and build than western women. So the western women are seen and looked upon as bigger and stronger (by the way in my experience stronger means fatter ... when I am told I am stronger I know it means I am fatter).<BR/>2. Chinese men, while sometimes smaller frame and build, are not as smaller than western men as the women are to western women especially in northern china<BR/>3. Chinese men, middle age, can tend to have belly as big as the "fat" western men you see in China.<BR/>4. Chinese culture (changing now as income level rises) valued the big belly man because it meant he had enough food to eat which meant he can provide for his family.<BR/><BR/>When you take 2-4 together then it is easy to see that a chinese people do not see as much difference between chinese man and western man body as compared to western woman/chinese woman.<BR/><BR/> <BR/>It does not mean you are fat when they say this .. it is a relative comparision. Also some Chinese women wish they had the more curvy body of a western woman. <BR/><BR/>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder .. but if somebody does not think you are beautiful it is their problem. So if problem want to think I am a fat western man only in China for the attention then that is their right .... just as it is my right to think that if you took the time to get to know the "fat" man you might find there are other reasons his chinese gf or wife loves him.Alannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-72921002599922027942009-03-26T02:20:00.000+08:002009-03-26T02:20:00.000+08:00The sense of false superiority demonstrated by som...The sense of false superiority demonstrated by some of the posters is astonishing. Remember, there are nearly 1.4 billion people in China, so obviously there are lot of people (namely girls) who have never seen foreigners in their life, and it is only natural that westerners will receive more attention. I don't deny that some women in China blindly believe in the illusion of all western men being gentle, caring and romantic white prince charming. However, saying that some western trashes are better than the best of Chinese men is ignorant at best and ridiculous at worst. <BR/><BR/>Secondly, westerners and Chinese share a very different perception of beauty. The females that are considered "hot" or "exotic" by western standard are usually very ugly by the Chinese standard.<BR/><BR/>I am not saying all westerners have superiority complex but some of the posters need to stop flattering yourselves.胡崧https://www.blogger.com/profile/10445813044481997337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-33819418093872554472009-03-23T13:53:00.000+08:002009-03-23T13:53:00.000+08:00Lan Yang, that's pretty funny! Maybe they're just...Lan Yang, that's pretty funny! Maybe they're just holding on to the desperate hope that you are in fact a translator? When I'm in the Philippines with my wife it's a different experience. Have you ever seen a person's face flash back and forth between adoration and hate? I can always tell when they're looking at me and my wife.Brad Farlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05904252975434362901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-45526643472909137852009-03-23T07:51:00.000+08:002009-03-23T07:51:00.000+08:00Haha,good point!That's why Erik always like to go ...Haha,good point!That's why Erik always like to go to China since all the chinese girl call him"帅哥", which will never happen in Sweden.:P<BR/>As Erik's chinese wife, I have the different treatment when we go out together in China. Some people(girls) pretend to ask me:"Are you his translator?" Come on, obviously we are a couple! I have two Swedish master degree,and I am not a translator!!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05915009968182212969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-10615036194386938532009-03-23T03:54:00.000+08:002009-03-23T03:54:00.000+08:00Konichiwa-I am LOL reading ur comments- I am only ...Konichiwa-I am LOL reading ur comments- I am only trying to wind you up! sure ur prettier than me...peace girl!!!Shigotto ganbatte kudasai! Aishiteru.<BR/>xoxoxIlyanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03570937586804453070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-34659449526215332982009-03-21T19:17:00.000+08:002009-03-21T19:17:00.000+08:00cd- if this conversation is even still going on-- ...cd- if this conversation is even still going on-- stoop to what level? In my second post I only asked questions.<BR/><BR/>I don't know how you're not "stooping" by going on about the most shallow and material things (and actually not at all disproving the generality that Asians are materialistic, rather the opposite--I also want to say that this is not how I believe, but that it is a widespread stereotype which you're not helping to dispell). You're better looking, sexier and richer? Did that actually have anything to do with the conversation? Can you hear yourself? <BR/><BR/>Wow.The Candid Yankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06467055634256124294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-34104208528614569282009-03-21T19:01:00.000+08:002009-03-21T19:01:00.000+08:00@Mats: I agree with you. About the fat westerners...@Mats: I agree with you. About the fat westerners strutting around being disgusting. My wife is actually a few years older than me, but seeing those guys in the Philippines, old fat and nasty looking, with attractive young girls following them around like puppies, actually embarrasses me.<BR/><BR/>As for the whole thing being a self esteem booster, I guess it is. It does get you in trouble though. A girl tried to hit on me while my wife was standing right next to me one day. She got chewed out. ^_^Brad Farlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05904252975434362901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-43818498922423742662009-03-21T16:38:00.000+08:002009-03-21T16:38:00.000+08:00Some of these fat, old westerner guys are really d...Some of these fat, old westerner guys are really disgusting. Strutting around like they are the kings of the world, but on the other hand a lot of western women are not used to this reverse in terms of attention. In Europe a girl (even an average(or less than average) looking one) gets approached by several men during one night of clubbing. I think its only fair that there are places in the world where its the other way round, but there seem to be some women who grudge men this kind of situation. I think its really a nice experience and good for ones selfesteem, even if youre not hunting for skirts.Matshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05243933575137016548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-20681699418433175592009-03-20T16:18:00.000+08:002009-03-20T16:18:00.000+08:00@CD:You're right. My wife is very loyal. From wh...@CD:<BR/><BR/>You're right. My wife is very loyal. From what I've heard from her and other Filipinos is that women from the Philippines have a tendency to stick it out and try to work out problems, rather than dropping one relationship for the next best thing. Even to the point of fault sometimes. I've personally seen quite a few abusive relationships where the Filipina refused to leave, because she thought she could somehow make it work.<BR/><BR/>So, what do I take from that? Personal security. If I'm good to my wife, she'll stick by me.<BR/><BR/>By the way, you sound a lot like her. She says the same thing... "I'm proud of my color!" I like her color too. One of the most shocking things I've seen in the Philippines is huge racks of "whitening" soaps and products. Why try to be white? The skin color is part of what makes Filipinas exotic and attractive!Brad Farlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05904252975434362901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-87218899787731989072009-03-20T07:24:00.000+08:002009-03-20T07:24:00.000+08:00I cleaned up for a bit... pls, let's not have 'cap...I cleaned up for a bit... pls, let's not have 'caps lock' discussion and be abusive again. Like I've said many times -this is not the place for those sort of discussions. Obviously it will be a while before I ever write about this topic again. I didn't realize it was so loaded.Jonna Wibeliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08954672453008704738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-39163684155351414632009-03-20T04:54:00.000+08:002009-03-20T04:54:00.000+08:00Konichiwa Biatch... English may not be my first la...Konichiwa Biatch... English may not be my first language, but I will not stoop down to your level...cos I know I am prettier and sexier than you:-) (and I reckon my bank balance is probably a lot better than yours) ...Oh by the way-when My husband and I got married my parents paid for my wedding...and my husband was SKINT when I married him...<BR/>Brad F probably knows that we filipinas when we love a man, we stick to them for better or worse...<BR/>Jonna, its not ur fault where this post lead, just wanna clarify how other's think they're superior to others...racism has always been an issue in this society, because of some insecure and less educated people. <BR/>and I am not embarrased for a fact that I am ASIAN- I love my colour, atleast I dont need to pay for sunbeds. (ohhh people- grow up!!!) wrinkles are getting more visible now...:-) LOLness.<BR/>xxooxx Konichiwa-Bitch.Ilyanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03570937586804453070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-2261503987216048322009-03-20T03:58:00.000+08:002009-03-20T03:58:00.000+08:00For one: its very odd to see how the commenters on...For one: its very odd to see how the commenters on this post have digressed.<BR/><BR/>But on the post: Thats hilarious! I would never have guessed that western men were treated that way...but then, I don't know anything about that culture. :P Thank you for writing this blog, I have loved reading it, very interesting posts :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-56693877110883907812009-03-19T23:26:00.000+08:002009-03-19T23:26:00.000+08:00Jonna, may I suggest you use the comment moderatio...Jonna, may I suggest you use the comment moderation application to sift out comments like the ones from "anonymous" with his vicious generalizations, ludicrously decontextualized rants, indiscriminate temper tantrums and generally sloppy thinking? I guess it's funny, really -- I haven't seen anyone indulge in such in-your-face bad-boy antics since I was in high school -- but it's also kind of depressing. So much so, in fact, that if this kind of thing continues I'll stop visiting your blog. And that would be a real loss for me, because your blog rocks and I love visiting it. <BR/><BR/>Just a suggestion. Of course I respect your right to handle this unfortunate situation as you think fit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-44351011873693563352009-03-19T21:23:00.000+08:002009-03-19T21:23:00.000+08:00Anonymous -For starters, I don't really do the who...Anonymous -For starters, I don't really do the whole verbal abuse thing. Secondly, this blog is not a platform for those sort of discussions. Keep that in mind next time you make a comment. It's totally OK to be critical and negative -but no need to take it to a low, childish level.Jonna Wibeliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08954672453008704738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-47355177990052888542009-03-19T21:22:00.000+08:002009-03-19T21:22:00.000+08:00Wow. This Anonymous guy is the perfect example of...Wow. This Anonymous guy is the perfect example of why comment moderation exists...Brad Farlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05904252975434362901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-70410949089536831402009-03-19T21:16:00.000+08:002009-03-19T21:16:00.000+08:00CD - it is always funny to me how some people like...CD - it is always funny to me how some people like to take one experience--usually their own-- and use it to disprove a generality?<BR/><BR/>i would also like to know how your having more money than your husband (an exception in any country) before you met him makes you not-materialistic? People unconcerned with the accumulation of wealth usually don't accumulate it.The Candid Yankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06467055634256124294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-81739902724249206132009-03-19T21:07:00.000+08:002009-03-19T21:07:00.000+08:00@Anonymous:My name is Brad, not Brat... at least d...@Anonymous:<BR/><BR/>My name is Brad, not Brat... at least don't be childish.<BR/><BR/>I don't think two people who can't communicate could have a real relationship, no, but I don't think you have to be able to talk to someone to think they're attractive. I'm not really sure where you're trying to go with that. I was simply pointing out that you can't generalize. Not all women from "3rd world" nations are after westerners for a fat paycheck, or increased social standing, or a ticket to the "good life."<BR/><BR/>I thought this post was just to point out a curious fact, not to start slinging mud and calling all third world women opportunistic whores, which is how I understood your comment. I wanted to point out that you're wrong, and my wife is an example of that.<BR/><BR/>"two very nice countries (PR in one, citizenship in another)"<BR/><BR/>So, you're from a "third world" nation and you're a PR in Singapore? Good for you. A few days ago, I had a conversation with my wife about people who move to Singapore and then mentally set themselves above their peers from home. You've adopted the local way of thinking. Great.<BR/><BR/>The way you talk about people is arrogant and demeaning. The way you generalize about women from certain countries is ignorant and shameful, since you're apparently from one of them. Have some pride.<BR/><BR/>I don't even know where to go with this ... When you leave a comment, leave one that's helpful and informative, not one that's slanderous, vague, generalized, and useless except to incite other commenters.<BR/><BR/>As for your questions about the US, what does any of that have to do with this post? Shove it where the sun don't shine. At least in the US people aren't deported because they say the government sucks. <BR/><BR/>And why am I in Singapore? Because my wife works here, and I love my wife. Thank you, have a nice day.Brad Farlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05904252975434362901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-26280074122832358602009-03-19T21:04:00.000+08:002009-03-19T21:04:00.000+08:00Dear Jonna,Since you are really hot, I will forgiv...Dear Jonna,<BR/><BR/>Since you are really hot, I will forgive what you just said. Feel free to abuse me, verbally or otherwise, whenever you feel like it.<BR/><BR/>BTW great job on your Chinese. You write very good Chinese for a hot Swedish chick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-59901075924347817152009-03-19T14:54:00.000+08:002009-03-19T14:54:00.000+08:00anonymous -YOU DON'T NEED TO YELL, pls press caps ...anonymous -YOU DON'T NEED TO YELL, pls press caps lock and write with small letters for future commenting.Jonna Wibeliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08954672453008704738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-36521273157824866972009-03-19T10:39:00.000+08:002009-03-19T10:39:00.000+08:00Oh my goodness Jonna, you have opened a can of wor...Oh my goodness Jonna, you have opened a can of worms! It's an issue I've been thinking about lately too. Why are the Western men and Chinese men so attracted to one another? Why aren't Chinese men attracted to Western women? I don't understand how laowai men who struggle big time with women at home come to China and are all of a sudden so attractive and that women come here and find it so hard to find any men who are interested in them. <BR/><BR/>I just split up with a Western guy, who was quite adament that he was not attracted to Asian women at all, only to find he has now started seeing an Asian woman!<BR/><BR/>Thank goodness most of us western women are in China for adventures and not relationships, like a lot of Western men are!<BR/><BR/>Where are the 'normal' Western men who don't turn egotistical when in China?Anna Davidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12773065671687779845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-30738243546485078032009-03-19T08:09:00.000+08:002009-03-19T08:09:00.000+08:00If I saw you walking around I would write you a lo...If I saw you walking around I would write you a love note Jonna <3<BR/><BR/>Write whatever you want I always find it fascinating to read ... just never comment hahaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-18649525676392153122009-03-19T07:40:00.000+08:002009-03-19T07:40:00.000+08:00FYI-konichiwa-bitches- I am Asian, and married to ...FYI-konichiwa-bitches- I am Asian, and married to a British guy-but may I remind you, I got more money than my husband before we met, (and still are) so don't say all Asians are materialistic...(lols)Ilyanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03570937586804453070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-46803148550631427642009-03-19T07:35:00.000+08:002009-03-19T07:35:00.000+08:00Oh, dont u worry about it girl, ur not Fat nor chu...Oh, dont u worry about it girl, ur not Fat nor chubby, for goodness sake, if someone says ur fat, that means I am obese when I am only a size 6 (Uk), what is it with these people..as long as ur healthy and confident that's all that matters.Ilyanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03570937586804453070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8491088023973371313.post-15125629362064262332009-03-19T07:10:00.000+08:002009-03-19T07:10:00.000+08:00Hm.. I guess I should have seen this coming. When ...Hm.. I guess I should have seen this coming. When I wrote this post my intention was NOT to start a discussion about why Chinese women want to date western men... I wanted to focus on the difference between how laowais males and females are looked at in China, but I guess the dating bit was impossible to avoid... still I was hoping some western ladies living in China (or Asia) would write about their experiences here (and some did, great!!) but I can see the discussion going in another direction now. Very interesting to read everyone's opinions, but obviously this is a very loaded topic. Maybe I should have just left it.Jonna Wibeliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08954672453008704738noreply@blogger.com